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not just going forward for the obama administration, but going forward, you know, 10, 15, 20 years. how will we approach these sorts of future -- hopefully they don't occur, but future benghazis and drone strikes in the future against american citizens. it's really about ten years in the future rather than five years in the past. >> steve clemons, michael lighter, and joining me now senator jay rockefeller who serves on the intelligence committee and is a former chairman of the committee. senator, you are the expert. what does the committee want to hear today from john brennan before deciding to vote whether he should be the next cia director? >> i think what we're going to hear -- i've had good talks with john brennan. i have known him for a number of years, and the fact of the matter is, you know, he himself was not aware of the intelligence and the eitc enhanced interrogation and torture stuff. there's a lot that he -- until we wrote a 6,000 page document with 23,000 foot notes. he has read the summaries of that, and he is shocked. there's a lot people don't know even though they
not just going forward for the obama administration, but going forward, you know, 10, 15, 20 years. how will we approach these sorts of future -- hopefully they don't occur, but future benghazis and drone strikes in the future against american citizens. it's really about ten years in the future rather than five years in the past. >> steve clemons, michael lighter, and joining me now senator jay rockefeller who serves on the intelligence committee and is a former chairman of the committee....
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i hope the obama administration will reconsider his nomination." joining me now, more to talk about this, "washington post" op-ed columnist, dana milbank. dana, good to have you here. and don't we have senator john mccain, and we know how this went down, several other republicans were very tough through that confirmation hearing, but they said yesterday they would not support a filibuster of hagel's confirmation, as threatened by senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. so would it be historic, or do you think that it's really possible? >> to actually proceed with a filibuster? >> to proceed with a filibuster, yeah? >> it's a theoretical possibility. it would be such an extraordinary escalation of the wars here in washington, which are already completely out of control. so, yes, they could do it. but just the very notion of them filibustering, one of their former republican colleagues, and not because they found him unfit to serve for some personal reason or related to his capacity to serve, but because they don't like his policies. and guess what
i hope the obama administration will reconsider his nomination." joining me now, more to talk about this, "washington post" op-ed columnist, dana milbank. dana, good to have you here. and don't we have senator john mccain, and we know how this went down, several other republicans were very tough through that confirmation hearing, but they said yesterday they would not support a filibuster of hagel's confirmation, as threatened by senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. so would...
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we know that's a goal of the obama administration. it may be their most ambitious goal. they haven't made much progress toward it, even with somebody as high profile as hillary clinton being in that job. will john kerry being there have the opportunity for them to go forward? >> i'm so glad you played that clip, because i thought that line was so powerful and important. how far we are institutionally and the sea process inside the white house and the relative weight of defense in state. >> yes. >> and i think the single most important thing to getting us here is something you have written about a tremendous amount which is we need to as a country declare our state of war over. as long as we are in an active state of war, the center of gravity will be with the war machine, will be with the war planners, will be with the pentagon. it is only when the nation views itself as being at peace that diplomacy can take some kind of equal footing. until we get to place where we do something as dramatic as repealing or refusing to reauthorize, the authorization of the use of militar
we know that's a goal of the obama administration. it may be their most ambitious goal. they haven't made much progress toward it, even with somebody as high profile as hillary clinton being in that job. will john kerry being there have the opportunity for them to go forward? >> i'm so glad you played that clip, because i thought that line was so powerful and important. how far we are institutionally and the sea process inside the white house and the relative weight of defense in state....
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a washington post abc news poll this month found 83% of americans approved of the obama administration's drone policy. the 11% opposed perhaps ad hereins of the old ben franklin adage that those who give up their liberty for more security metro deserve liberty nor security. hannah, i want to go to you first on this given all the work that you've done in and around the issue of drones. the administration laid out three criteria for the killing of u.s. sit sfwlenz. one, that the target be a ranking al qaeda figure. who, the target pose an imminent threat of violent attack against the u.s., and, three, that the targets capture is not feasible. all of those seem like terms that are open to pretty broad interpretation. >> that's exactly right, alex. i think one of the things that is most troubling and remarkable about this memo are that what appear to be restrictions on the first page of the memo become permissions by the end of it when you start reading how they're defined. take imindependence, for example. the administration says that it can only target people who are an imminent threat, bu
a washington post abc news poll this month found 83% of americans approved of the obama administration's drone policy. the 11% opposed perhaps ad hereins of the old ben franklin adage that those who give up their liberty for more security metro deserve liberty nor security. hannah, i want to go to you first on this given all the work that you've done in and around the issue of drones. the administration laid out three criteria for the killing of u.s. sit sfwlenz. one, that the target be a...
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. >> the approach that the obama administration is following is consistent with and really derived from the bush administration approach to the war on terror and i think it's entirely sensible. >> do you agree with that? lindsey graham saying totally sensible. >> we are fighting a war that's much different than the classic and traditional wars that we have fought in the past. the result of that is the methods of fighting that war and the way that americans are involved in the war are different than what they have in the past. and so, we're really in a process today of a much maturing way of handling these, of looking at them. i think there's going to be a robust discussion amongst the american people as to how we actually do that. what you're seeing with the brennan nomination hearing today is going to be the tip of the iceberg. we've been discussing this for a long time. >> yes. >> within the intelligence committee. >> and the president directed as we discussed the justice department to give congressional intelligence committee access to the classified memos and i want to play what the
. >> the approach that the obama administration is following is consistent with and really derived from the bush administration approach to the war on terror and i think it's entirely sensible. >> do you agree with that? lindsey graham saying totally sensible. >> we are fighting a war that's much different than the classic and traditional wars that we have fought in the past. the result of that is the methods of fighting that war and the way that americans are involved in the...
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the obama administration now breaking years of secrecy and handing over a confidential 16-page memo that justifies the targeting killing of u.s. citizens abroad suspected of being terrorists. this decision to release the document came hours before brennan was to face a serious grilling by lawmakers outraged over the program. the biggest critic, democratic senator ron wyden who says the president has been stonewalling congress for years and suggested blocking brennan's nomination. president obama called wyden specifically last night. >> clearly, the president's call to senator wyden so unusual and trying to ward off what could be a calamitous hearing today. >> what standard will barack obama be held to after the pictures of the little children who were killed by his cone drone attacks are placed before the jury in the hague? >> i was encouraged last night when the president called and he said as part of this effort, he is going to try to drive a more extensive discussion about these issues. every american has the right to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. i do
the obama administration now breaking years of secrecy and handing over a confidential 16-page memo that justifies the targeting killing of u.s. citizens abroad suspected of being terrorists. this decision to release the document came hours before brennan was to face a serious grilling by lawmakers outraged over the program. the biggest critic, democratic senator ron wyden who says the president has been stonewalling congress for years and suggested blocking brennan's nomination. president...
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some have taken issue with the obama administration's drone policy. this is a family dispute in my house. polls show most americans support it, even most liberals, even when it means killing americans who plot with al qaeda. four senators, two democrats and two republicans, working on a deal to expand background checks for gun sales. two are members of the nra. if they can strike a deal, a big part of president obama's gun safety proposals could be within reach. the movie "silver linings playbook" puts mental illness in the spotlight. we're joined by david russell, talk about the issue on the oscar history the movie could make and i think it has a shot. rick perry escalates the war with california counterpart he's not slightly a counterpart, jerry brown so much better, in the side show. this is "hardball," the place for politics. tossing and turning have given way to sleeping. where sleepless nights yield to restful sleep. and lunesta®(eszopiclone) can help you get there. like it has for so many people before. when taking lunesta, don't drive or oper
some have taken issue with the obama administration's drone policy. this is a family dispute in my house. polls show most americans support it, even most liberals, even when it means killing americans who plot with al qaeda. four senators, two democrats and two republicans, working on a deal to expand background checks for gun sales. two are members of the nra. if they can strike a deal, a big part of president obama's gun safety proposals could be within reach. the movie "silver linings...
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my own belief is that the solution the obama administration reached here is win/win. i say this to someone who believes in the clinton case, that abortion should be safe, legal and rare. getting birth control to women for free will keep it rare. to keep the catholic church out of that transaction keeps it closer to the goal. this is what good, smart, progressive, morally upright politics is all about. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. and thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live tonight in sacramento, california. tonight's lead, america versus the nra. today, president obama took his fight for gun safety outside of washington. calling for action. debunking the nra lies and making sure everyone knows we can't wait for change. >> we don't have to agree on everything to agree it's time to do something. if we've got lobbyists in washington, claiming to speak for gun owners, saying something different, we need to go to the source and reach out to people. directly. >> there's no legis
my own belief is that the solution the obama administration reached here is win/win. i say this to someone who believes in the clinton case, that abortion should be safe, legal and rare. getting birth control to women for free will keep it rare. to keep the catholic church out of that transaction keeps it closer to the goal. this is what good, smart, progressive, morally upright politics is all about. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politics nation"...
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administration drone policy. this is a family dispute in my house. polls show most americans support, even most liberals if you will, even when it means killing americans who are plotting with al qaeda to kill other americans. >>> plus, four senators, two democrats and two republicans, are really working on a deal to expand at least background checks for gun sales. two of the four senators are members of the nra. if they can strike a deal, then a big part of president obama's gun safety proposals could be within reach. >>> plus, the terrific movie "silver linings playbook" puts mental illness in the spotlight tonight. we're joined by the director of that film, the great david russell, to talk about the issue and the oscar history the movie could make. i think it's got a shot. >>> texas governor rick perry escalates that war with his california counterpart -- he's not even slightly a counterpart. jerry brown is so much better. that's coming in the "sideshow" tonight. and this is "hardball" the place for politics.
administration drone policy. this is a family dispute in my house. polls show most americans support, even most liberals if you will, even when it means killing americans who are plotting with al qaeda to kill other americans. >>> plus, four senators, two democrats and two republicans, are really working on a deal to expand at least background checks for gun sales. two of the four senators are members of the nra. if they can strike a deal, then a big part of president obama's gun...
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administration during the campaign season last year. and then some various questions about benghazi, the attacks on libya last september that skilled the american ambassador. a lot of republicans feel there are still e-mails that haven't been released. >>> and now here's your first look at some of the other news going on around america. we start in florida where a 70-year-old woman lost control of her suv and plowed through a restaurant window just as it was getting ready to open. a very agile bartender inside was able to leap out of the way and sustain only minor injuries. >>> in michigan one snowplow definitely sweeps away the competition. a new toy for engineers that looks like atrailer but swings around wide enough to clear two lanes of traffic at once. it's half the price of normal plows. >>> in new york, almost 3,000 dogs and their owners are primping for the prestigious westminster dog show. a rough workout in the special doggie gym gets these pups ready to compete. after a good run these pure breds need a little bit of a break s
administration during the campaign season last year. and then some various questions about benghazi, the attacks on libya last september that skilled the american ambassador. a lot of republicans feel there are still e-mails that haven't been released. >>> and now here's your first look at some of the other news going on around america. we start in florida where a 70-year-old woman lost control of her suv and plowed through a restaurant window just as it was getting ready to open. a...
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. >>> just moments ago, senator lindsey graham released a statement, asking the obama administration to reconsider nominating chuck hagel for secretary of defense. still, hagel will probably be confirmed. yesterday, senator john mccain said he will not support a filibuster of his former senate colleague and democrats appear to have at least 57 votes to confirm hagel, including two republicans. first kid you ready? [ female announcer ] second kid by their second kid, every mom is an expert and more likely to choose luvs. after thousands of diaper changes, they know what works. luvs lock away wetness better than huggies for a fraction of the cost live, learn, & get luvs. for a fraction of the cost when you lost the thing you can't believe you lost.. when what you just bought, just broke. or when you have a little trouble a long way from home... as an american express cardmember you can expect some help. but what you might not expect, is you can get all this with a prepaid card. spends like cash. feels like membership. >>> the politics now, where hillary clinton launched a new website,
. >>> just moments ago, senator lindsey graham released a statement, asking the obama administration to reconsider nominating chuck hagel for secretary of defense. still, hagel will probably be confirmed. yesterday, senator john mccain said he will not support a filibuster of his former senate colleague and democrats appear to have at least 57 votes to confirm hagel, including two republicans. first kid you ready? [ female announcer ] second kid by their second kid, every mom is an...
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a record of holding the obama administration accountable. here is a clip of "the ed show" on tuesday night, the day before o'reilly's original claim. >> i have to say as an american citizen, we are all entitled to due process under the law. and this document gives the president the ability to act as judge, jury and executioner. i'm troubled by it. it doesn't meet the moral or constitutional standard that we expect of any administration. >> meanwhile, let's take a look at the way fox news covered the waterboarding story that bill is talking about back in 2009. >> khalid sheikh mohammed i understand was waterboarded 183 times. did anyone care about that? >> i would have done exactly what bush did. >> you disappoint me. you know better. >> i would have dunked that guy in the water a thousand times to save your life. >> have you ever been water boarded? >> no, but ollie north has, and i talked to him about it. >> would you consent to be water boarded so we could get the truth out of you? >> sure. >> can we water board you? are you busy on sunday
a record of holding the obama administration accountable. here is a clip of "the ed show" on tuesday night, the day before o'reilly's original claim. >> i have to say as an american citizen, we are all entitled to due process under the law. and this document gives the president the ability to act as judge, jury and executioner. i'm troubled by it. it doesn't meet the moral or constitutional standard that we expect of any administration. >> meanwhile, let's take a look at...
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it leaves the obama administration open to the criticism. if you own a business and don't want to provide coverage to women because of the law saying they are titled to it, they cannot be eligible. >> we're haven't heard from the groups. they are registering disappointment. could this once again go to the nation's highest court. >> this is almost certainly going to go to the nation's highest court. the real story is there three different rule changes. all of them on friday to minimize attention to it. the administration knows this is a battle to end up in the stream court. all the technicalities don't change the fundaments. they are shoring up the legal standing to get enough votes at the supreme court to be able to uphold the entire contra accepting mandate and an official that this is more about a legal maneuver than a desire to assuage real concerns on the part of religious leaders. >> this is what they write. the white house decision ought to be taken by the nation's bishops as a victory because it is. they include the country's most pro
it leaves the obama administration open to the criticism. if you own a business and don't want to provide coverage to women because of the law saying they are titled to it, they cannot be eligible. >> we're haven't heard from the groups. they are registering disappointment. could this once again go to the nation's highest court. >> this is almost certainly going to go to the nation's highest court. the real story is there three different rule changes. all of them on friday to...
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administration drone policy. this is a family dispute in my house. polls show most americans support, even most liberals if you will, even when it means killing americans who are plotting with al qaeda to kill other americans. >>> plus, four senators, two democrats and two republicans, are really working on a deal to expand at least background checks for gun sales. two of the four senators are members of the nra. if they can strike a deal, then a big part of president obama's gun safety proposals could be within reach. >>> plus, the terrific movie "silver linings playbook" puts mental illness in the spotlight tonight. we're joined by the director of that film, the great david russell, to talk about the issue and the oscar history the movie could make. i think it's got a shot. >>> texas governor rick perry escalates that war with his california counterpart -- he's not even slightly a counterpart. jerry brown is so much better. that's coming in the "sideshow" tonight. and this is "hardball" the place for politics.
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the obama administration's shadow program of targeted killings got exposure this week right her. michael isikoff reporting the story here on msnbc. isikoff obtained the government document that lays out the legal arguments to justify the use of drones to kill al qaeda suspects including at times american citizens. i want to go ahead and take a reality check now and the government's the mostly secret drone program until now. joining me now, vicki duval, former general council on intelligence committee and former deputy legal adviser to the cia's counterterrorism center and kevin williamson, deputy manager of the national review. thanks so much for both of you being here. reality check here. >> polls show most americans have very little problem using drones against citizens turned terrorists. here it is right here. 79% of people approve using drones against americans overseas who are suspected of plotting terrorist attacks. what does this is a about us, kevin? >> well, it says that voters aren't to be trusted, but we knew that already. you can put the word terrorist in front of any
the obama administration's shadow program of targeted killings got exposure this week right her. michael isikoff reporting the story here on msnbc. isikoff obtained the government document that lays out the legal arguments to justify the use of drones to kill al qaeda suspects including at times american citizens. i want to go ahead and take a reality check now and the government's the mostly secret drone program until now. joining me now, vicki duval, former general council on intelligence...
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why do you think president obama's adopted some of the bush administration's approaches to counterterrorism? >> well, you know, i'm not sure i see the parallel to the extent that this article implies. i think obama's been extremely careful in circumscribing the use of force. we made mistakes in the bush era at first, arrested u.s. citizens, held them, we made some mistakes, torture being the worst of the lot. so, i think the obama team's been mindful of that. they're trying to be careful. but at the end of the day, better you take soldiers out of afghanistan and iraq and allow the agency and the fbi to operate overseas. so, again, we ought to be careful. don't circumscribe the ability of the president of the united states to keep us safe, but do have congressional oversight. >> general barry mccaffrey, we will leave it there. thank you. appreciate your time, as always. >> good to be with you. >>> just ahead, gabby giffords' new purpose and what she's willing to do to reduce gun violence in this country. >>> and the other kerry that works in washington, d.c. is there a sibling rivalry in the
why do you think president obama's adopted some of the bush administration's approaches to counterterrorism? >> well, you know, i'm not sure i see the parallel to the extent that this article implies. i think obama's been extremely careful in circumscribing the use of force. we made mistakes in the bush era at first, arrested u.s. citizens, held them, we made some mistakes, torture being the worst of the lot. so, i think the obama team's been mindful of that. they're trying to be careful....
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it's also a question i think as this administration, the obama administration has done, of expanding it to include wounded soldiers and looking at ways that we can support even more veterans, so in the same way that president clinton had to look at the times when we were in office, we have to examine these new times when the reality is people are working longer and harder, and it's difficult to access the law so we need to ask ourselves what we can do differently. >> 20-year anniversary of fmla, can you believe that 1993 seems like just yesterday? why do you think this law is so important? >> the reason president clinton has people tell him it's appreciated, 100 million families have used it, 14,000 in 2011. this is a law that affect all strata of american society. the problem we have and mika has written about this in national memo is we're far behind other countries in this. far behind when it was passed and far behind the benefits -- >> how is in a? how are we behind? >> other countries have paid leave. they have paid leave for dads as well as moms when a pregnancy is -- a baby is
it's also a question i think as this administration, the obama administration has done, of expanding it to include wounded soldiers and looking at ways that we can support even more veterans, so in the same way that president clinton had to look at the times when we were in office, we have to examine these new times when the reality is people are working longer and harder, and it's difficult to access the law so we need to ask ourselves what we can do differently. >> 20-year anniversary...